what poweder to use to load 223 for 2000fps

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    BullsEye Powder in 223 rem Plinking load?

    Does anyone load with Bullseye pulverisation for a low-cal plinking or small game load for the .223 using a 55gr Boolit?

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    Ruby-red Dot is the fastest pulverisation that I have used in the .223, and so far it has worked very well. I don't know if Bullseye would work bettr, or worse. Looking at Quick Load, it appears that Ruby Dot volition give somewhat higher pressures in very light (3.5 grain) loads, etc.

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    I utilize Bullseye in my .223 loads with the Lyman 225107, 225438, and the 225415 cast bullets. Bullseye provides very practiced accuracy in those from 800 fps to 1600 fps. It is non position sensitive unless shooting at extreme angles of 80 degrees +/-. My favorite load for squirrel shooting is the 225415 over 4 gr of Bullseye for 1550 fps out of my M700V with 12" twist. Information technology is much more deadly on ground squirrels than any .22LR and rivals the .22 magnum in terminal result. Quite adequate to 150 yards.

    Larry Gibson


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    Larry, what's your accuse for the 800 fps load, please?

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    1500 sounds about what I am looking for. Are you using burglarize or pistol primers. I was looking for a proficient grayness squirrel load equally I was given 3 lb of information technology.

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    Quote Originally Posted past Rocky Raab View Post

    Larry, what's your charge for the 800 fps load, please?

    My load is one.8 gr Bullseye in LC cases under the 225415 cast of recovered .22LR alloy, sized in .225 die only plenty to seat and crimp the GC'south leaving the bullets basically "every bit cast" and then I tumble very lightly in LLA. They run 815 fps from my M70 with 12" twist 22" barrel and are a groovy walk almost plinker and small game load. About like shooting .22 shorts only a lot amend on the terminal end.

    Larry Gibson

    Concluding edited by Larry Gibson; 03-12-2011 at 06:sixteen PM.

  7. #vii

    In some of my light loads I use iii signal 8 grains or a little less depending on the bullet and rifle it'due south intended for .

    Jack


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    I was wanting to use information technology in my Stevens model 200 223 rem for squirrels ,with something like 1600 fps

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    Wow. Can y'all fifty-fifty use the standard sites with those loads?
    Seems like every fourth dimension I use fifty-fifty Unique in anything I have to aim loftier or shoot a foot low at 50yds.

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    I did try Unique at 5.0 with a 55gr cast bullet and information technology did shoot to the aforementioned betoken of aim as my standard 223 varmint load at 25 yards. Having been given 3 lb of Bullseye I was wanting to give it a try.
    Last edited past brstevns; 03-13-2011 at 07:18 PM.

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    Cheers, Larry. Duplicating the 22 Short is perzackly what I'm after.

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    35remington is offline

    Boolit M Master


    Using the standard sights when on a rifle using reduced loads is non an result if the gun has a scope.

    Depression velocity loads hit depression, usually. Use the thick/sparse junction of the duplex crosshairs to zip the load. Changing the power changes where the bullets hitting relative to this junction.

    For instance, using 9.0 grains W231 and the C113F Soup Can at 1550 fps, the rifle is zeroed at the thick/thin junction at 4.5X at fifty yards when adapted to striking a couple inches loftier at 100 with a 150 going 2950 fps in an '06.

    So no rezeroing is needed with the reduced load. Just apply the thick/sparse and change the power.


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    Iowa Fox is offline

    Boolit Master


    Larry,
    When you step upward to the 4gr load @1550 what alloy and lube procedure are yous using for the higher velocity rounds? What diameter are your 225415 dropping from the mold?

    Thank you


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    Quote Originally Posted by Iowa Fox View Post

    Larry,
    When you step up to the 4gr load @1550 what alloy and lube process are yous using for the higher velocity rounds? What diameter are your 225415 dropping from the mold?

    Cheers

    I utilise WWs + ii% tin and AC them. I've a very old mould and mine drop at .226 with WWs and .227 with linotype. I seat the GCs to ensure a square base with the GC seater and a .225 H die in the 450. I so button size them in a Lee sizer. Finally I lube them with Javelina in the .225 H die/450. A couple extra steps there but the consistent accurateness is with such smal bullets worth the effort. It is piece of cake for me to mess them upward if I attempt seating the GC, sizing and lubing all in one performance. I got a .228 H die this terminal year merely have not tried it yet with the 225415s to shoot "every bit cast". Certain works skilful on my 225462s though.

    Larry Gibson


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    just a warning to you guys be very carefull Be at 3gr is ok but if you double or tripple y'all are looking for big problems just make sure you dont double
    I apply 2 loading blocks now so it dont happen again

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    Iowa Fox is offline

    Boolit Master


    Thanks Larry,

    That helps me a lot. These picayune things can exist tricky going thru the sizer and not messing them up. Plus my very old 225415 casts on the fat side.


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    At the risk of drawing ire, you cannot double accuse if you don't use loading blocks. Funnel one weighed accuse into 1 example and immediately seat i bullet. I use plastic baskets for all reloading, moving cases from one to the other at each stage (size, aggrandize and and then prime).

    Threw my loading blocks away l years ago afterward discovering how easy it is to double charge or miss one while using blocks. Haven't had a mis-charge since.


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    I do the same thing as Rocky, charge a case and seat a boolit. Then, and simply then, proceed to the next case.

    Information technology ain't rocket science, it'due south boolit science.


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    Quote Originally Posted past shotman View Post

    only a warning to you guys be very carefull Exist at 3gr is ok but if you lot double or tripple you are looking for big problems but make certain you lot dont double I employ 2 loading blocks now so it dont happen once again

    shotman

    Always a adept caution to non double or tripple charge and I do accept precations so it doesn't happen. My method is that uncharged cases are in small boxes or the plastic store bins (pocket-size ones from Dillon, Lowes, Domicile dDepot, etc) and a case in a loading block has powder in it.

    Even so, I have worked up loads with the 225415 in the .223 to ix gr of Bullseye with the psi (M43 Oehler and 21" Contender barrel) being still below SAAMI PMAP. Thus even a mistaken tripple charge with 1.8 gr is yet safe and a mistaken double charge of the 4 gr load is even so safe. However, I exercise agree whole heartedly, that due precautions to foreclose such should, by all means, be taken.

    Larry Gibson


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    Iowa Fox is offline

    Boolit Master


    This thread has actually engaged the gray matter for me. I know that the 225415 has had numerous changes since its conception, I but dug out my Lyman 45th edition handbook to check out the mold specs in the dorsum. They list the 225415 as 49 grains with a normal cast diameter of .228 which is where mine drops them.

    Problem is trying to push them into a .225 sizer without deforming them, smearing lead into the lube grooves taking away lube chapters. I used an electric current H&I die with the o-band for the 450 and that is the problem I encountered.

    I purchased this Ideal mold from an erstwhile guy who purchased the mold new, at present departed, who shot information technology successfully in a hornet. In the ideal box with the mold was an H&I sizing die for the Lyman 45 sizer. After reading this thread I pulled that sizing die out to look at it. The lead into the top of the die on the 45 sizing die it is much more funnel shaped with the first lube pigsty very close to the elevation of the die or where the bullet base first enters into the die. The 450 die with the o-ring is nearly flat across the top without the tappered lead and the beginning lube pigsty much lower in the die. Peradventure the older sizing die is but what this older mold needs to size and lube correctly. But one way to find out, experitentation.

    Also the olfactory organ profile on my bandage bullet out of the Ideal mold is different than the current Lyman 225415. Thank goodness I have the right nose punch for it.

    Larry your .228 H&I dice must be for a Savage High Ability as they were .228 - I have a .228 for my Star so I might take to try that also.

    Thanks for helping me put some of the pieces togehter on this one.


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